(Read description) Is Defense Overrated in Terraria?
Terraria can be very unforgiving at times the smallest mistake can spell out your death so it’s important to do everything you can to improve your survivability one of the easiest and most common ways people improve their chances of survival is to increase their defense that’s
Great and all but what if i told you that they’re wrong what a defense isn’t as great as it’s made out to be and are there any alternatives oh yeah disclaimer uh 3 2 1 done so before i start explaining why defense isn’t good we’ll first have to explain how defense even works
This little icon displays how much defense your character has it can be increased by wearing armor equipping accessories using potions etc depending on the world’s difficulty the effectiveness of the fence will change the values are shown here got all that memorized no alright moving on so based on the examples shown
It seems like defense will be pretty effective i mean on master mode it will reduce damage taken by the trap to near zero which is great why would anyone not want to have the ability to take as much punishment as possible well it’s because of stuff like this
Granted this is a bit of an extreme example but the last thing you want to do in terraria is to take damage especially in higher difficulties sure defense may help you against some of the heftier blows you’ll be taking but not much the difference between getting hit is a summoner
Who has the lowest defense of any class and a warrior who has the highest is pretty negligible against bosses and melee users can only take maybe a hit or two more than a summoner so that’s it then right i’ve shown the flaws of defense and
Why it sucks might as well just not wear armor anymore ah well no although the fence isn’t as powerful as you may have once thought it could still be useful in some situations have you ever wanted to say go outside at night early in the game but you find yourself in this
Situation a lot to a fresh character this situation would be absolutely terrifying however slapping on a few pieces of armor can really even the playing field and negate a lot of the damage taken having a high defense score can help the player tank far more hits from enemies
That may dish out not the most damage but said damage can stack up quickly when overwhelmed other examples where a high defense score can help a ton include solar eclipses the seasonal moons and invasions this strategy could sort of fall apart in higher difficulties when everything just kind of decides to
Hit like a truck but the fence is definitely valuable in normal mode and can help anyone make it through the toughest of times so if you don’t want to be using defense especially on expert and master mode what should you use instead well first off there’s damage reduction or dr
And yes it’s different from defense unlike defense which is a score that decreases incoming damage by a set amount dr lowers damage taken by a percentage some items that give you dr include wearing a worm scarf beetle armor using an endurance potion and some other stuff so since dr is percentage based that
Means no matter how much an incoming attack is going to hurt the damage will be reduced by a pretty good amount top it off with the fact that dedicating your gear to having a high dr can almost completely negate the most powerful of attacks however damage reduction does have a fatal flaw
It doesn’t perform too well against ship damage yep dr’s weakness is defense’s strength and defense’s weakness is dr strength because ship damage is usually pretty low but still lethal enough to make an impact having an item that reduces damage taken by a certain percentage will lower the damage taken slightly but because of
Math and stuff not by much you will certainly be taking less damage but having a high defense may be better used in these situations there is another alternative to defense and this one is much more luck dependent dodge chance some items give the player a chance to completely ignore an incoming hit
Items let you do this include master ninja gear the brain of confusion after 1.4 and the hollowed armor or titanium armor now i know what some of you are thinking if dodging completely negates damage sometimes why bother with stuff like defense and damage reduction see there’s the thing sometimes it’ll negate damage although
You’ll be completely immune to all damage every once in a while all the other hits you take will be dealing full damage so relying solely on dodge chance can be risky thankfully most items that grant dodge chance are either accessories or armor pieces so you’ll have some defense or dr to
Back yourself up when you get smacked although those are all the conventional methods of raising one’s survivability there is one more maxing out your attack strength i know you’re all sick and tired of hearing a great offense is a good defense yada yada yada but this mentality actually applies very
Well to terraria scrapping defense and going for armor and buffs that will give you the most damage will let you beat things faster which means less time is spent fighting the boss lowering the chance of you messing up and dying if you want you can further increase your damage output
By going to this blue idiot and getting all your accessories reforged to a damage increasing modifier but good luck with that you’ll be getting good reforges only slightly more consistently than my upload schedule
UPDATE: So yeah, looking back, this video makes some bold claims with nothing much to really back it up. I really only made this video because I saw some people considering replacing their wings with a warding shackle which is like… why? So yeah, don’t get mad if this video says some garbage. Treat it as more of a showcase of alternatives for defense. Thank you for understanding and have a nice day
(Outdated garbage ahahah) I just kind of feel like that defense is super ineffective whenever I play so instead of trying to get good or something, I made a video about it. Funny how that works.
Also I hope I got my math stuff right. It was never my strong suit really
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Will Bungee every stop abruptly ending his videos? The world may never know…
I'd say DR is the general term for reducing damage, so defense, percentage, and dodge chance are subcategories of DR.
and just like band of regeneration & charm of myths, you can raise dodge chance by equipping both master ninja gear and the black belt, I think.
there also is one unmentioned and often underused type of "DR", regeneration.
using Squires Great Helm Valhalla knight's breastplate and band of regen, charm of myths, shiny stone, celestial stone, etc. is basically like defense, but its strengths and weaknesses are multiplied, MUCH better with chip damage, but worse with hard hits.
you skipped over menacing near the end…
After going through most of the game on expert with just obsidian armor, defense most certainly fucking matters. Can't tell you how many times I was this close to beating a boss, but died shortly after. Queen slime was not kind to me.
defense is overrated if you're skilled enough to simply dodge.
mobility > defense
I have only ever played a tank lol
Regen: 🙁
defenbse is good but most of the time youre dodging ,whyd u wanna get on purpose?
rolls menacing in very few tries
complains
You should make a video called in defense of defense
Damage reduction gang
In expert mode defense is fucking useless. Everything kills you even at 100 defense
Imo Dodge + Movement speed is the best
I read the description BUT STILL melee taking 2 more gits is suoer useful considering that well i dont know if you understand this people dont usually stand still during boss fights so taking two more hits is really good your voice is dumb aswell it makes this video that much worse also this did'nt tell me any alternatives to defence at all like your description said this video sucks dude
Set bonuses are the biggest point of armor because for summoners you can have more summons for melee users it can make their weapons have more range so less hits taken for rangers it can make them fire faster and for mages it can make their mana regenerate faster
i feel like no one every claimed to replace wings with shackle and you made up this bullshit to try and get attention
Then apon being called an idiot had to make that description
if you are playing on classic, high defense is viable because if its about 80 or more most attacks will be doing less than 30 damage and you can just bully bosses
Big nombors make me smeil 🙂
1:31 *calmy throws away a the grand design
Cant die if you kill things fast enough if you ask me
A hit or 2 is very important in master mode
Tankcels seething over dodge chads. Jokes aside I've always viewed defense armors as invasion armors and more unique armors as bossfight armors. The only exception is the solar amor which falls into the "Kill things before they can touch you" category
Yea if I showed this to my defense main friend he would refuse to think attack dmg is better.
1:53 what OK listen I read the description but the defensive stat imo is seesaw the defense between 30-45 defense is pointless and same is with 85-100 which makes me think like this if your class has natural high defense pick appropriate accessories to reflect you aggression using the dozen turtle shell and worm scarf on my melee make make damage negligible bro mech bosses like 1-5 most cases and I can have 120 defense if I want and 17-42 damage reduction versus my summoner which does have that and has 42 defense with its accessories which make a big difference on builds with low defense like 42 going for damage reduction over minion damage is splitting my energy so I below average defense and mediocre damage and bad idea long term
YouTube has actually been doing a good job with the auto-generated chapters recently, I've seen it do really well several times before and this is probably the best I've ever seen it do.
There’s no one on the emotional support role in the credits…
I didn't read description
Him wears no armour and no weapons and gets killed also him puts on armour and uses the minishark
My guy spends 28 seconds explaining why defense is "overrated", and the rest of the video is "here's other stuff which is kinda not related but is"
Offense is the best defense
-someone wise probably
"offence over defense"
Me who can't beat the moon lord with only a zenith: YOU LIER
Summoner class is better then any class with mods I gave myself inf minion mod and took like a single minute to beat expert moonlord after spamming stardust dragon staff for 5 mins straight
the massive number of demon eyes just look terrifying yet mesmerizing
DR + Defense tho = a fun time
Health items, defense traits, high defense armor, and most importantly a main source of fast speed to avoid attacks
My defense is so high I literally have tanked Dungeon Guardian, no joke (I play on switch with no mods or plug-ins or anything)
Just pointing out that defense isn't useless lol
this is why moon lord legs is the best armor piece in pre hardmode getfixedboi
I like adding modifiers to items for builds that lack in that area. For instance, on my summoner character, everything is reforged to warding, as summoners lack defense, and on my ranger build, everything is reforged to quick, as rangers lack movement speed.
You forgot to mention regeneration. Stacking enough defense with enough regen lets you literally face tank the final boss on normal mode. You can just sit in a box with a small pool of honey, making no effort to dodge, and the Moon Lord will be completely unable to kill you. You won't even need to heal.
Higher difficulties are a different story, but defense reducing the amount of damage you take combined with regen giving your health back effectively means you can make more mistakes more often and still be fine. Defense means your mistake is less costly, and regen means you recover from it faster.
Personally, I don’t like summoner solely due to the low defense. In Master Mode, some enemies can deal well over 500 damage, and the slight bit more defense meelee, ranger, and mage provide over summoner allows them to survive a hit and potentially heal or escape, while summoner gets one shotted.
I recommend you go with a max dodge build instead of max defense or ya know DONT GET HIT
do you want to survive, or do you want the boss to die? – warding vs menacing
It's the same reason to wear a helmet when bike riding irl. It ain't gonna make you immune to a truck hitting you but it's at least gonna keep your brains and guts inside, just don't get hit by two trucks
The most of my accessory slots are usually dedicated to movement (except for double jump when I have flight because it messes with me)
And raw damage boosting stuff
I definitely play glass Cannon characters a lot
As a melee player, damage doesn't really matter when you acquire the Zenith. In my personal experience at least.
Reforging to Warding helps way more than having Menacing IMO. YMMV.
Expert mode Moon Lords Deathray does 70 damage when using beetle armor (with shell) and warding accessories, just saying