Is the Angler a Scam?

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This is just a little Terraria experiment I felt like doing after all that fishing in the 9 block world playthrough. I did 30 fishing quests in that one while fishing for Hardmode ore, and I suspect that might not have been very efficient…

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33 Comments

  1. If only fishing was much more faster and that more lures was basic feature on later rods, heck how about rework the quests so you cab start next as soon as you complete one

  2. Anyone else think it would be a good idea for them to add a variant of Journey mode that removes the cheat stuff or makes notes of what cheats have been used? People complain about Journey mode removing the challenge but umm, really it just kind of cuts the time used by about 9/10

  3. i did a run in calamity some time ago, where i could only use things i fished up, that included crafting materials, i got to providance, after which you stop getting better loot, but there with no luck factors included, i could easily enough get to around 600 FP, and my max of all time was 658 power during acid rain in the morning of a full moon day

  4. The fishing quests are actually fairly easy to do most of the time. What I end up doing in my runs is whenever there's a non difficult quest for me to do, i got do it, and save 3+ fish in a chest for later, after a few quests like that i have all the common fish and so i feed him the ones from my chests. By the time i get to HM I have all the gear with minimal time or effort.

  5. Biome Crates can be arguably more valuable so I'll take it. I don't like scouring the land for some of the items crates have. Easier for me to just fish since I make an amber farm every time

  6. something of note is all the fishing done for these tests was at the ocean, which has a different "acceptable size of body of water" threshold (impacting fishing level and what sorts of catches you get) and biome crates. maybe if you (or anyone else reading this) felt like doing more tests, they could be done in the forest biome?

  7. fargo's souls really helps fishing out to an absurd degree. angler's enchantment alone can be gotten pretty quickly and makes all lures instantly catch something

  8. Bear in mind that you have a higher chance of getting golden crates if you fish in the forest or underground, where no biome crate is possible. This is because, as you mentioned, biome crates do indeed take precedence over golden in case both rolls succeed (they were a right pain to find before).

  9. I have many thoughts.
    1. Optimize your fishing throughput by standing (or sitting on a toilet that is placed) on platforms that are just below the surface of the water, and casting straight down. This will minimize the amount of time the bobber takes to travel when you cast and reel in.
    2. Torch luck doesn't apply when the player is in the surface layer or above (in my current world, the exact line is somewhere between -3 and -4 feet on the depth meter; IDK if that's consistent). The wiki is kind of bad on this because its phrasing implies that the position of the torch is what matters, when in fact it's the position of the player.
    3. If you want to avoid biome crates, you could fish in a biome that doesn't have its own crate, like Forest or regular Underground/Caverns (ideally the latter because then you could use bone torches for torch luck). You would still get the same total number of crates, although it's not obvious whether you would get more or less hardmode ore. It might depend on your fishing power, and the three tiers of ore might have different answers.
    4. In Calamity, you can get the golden rod immediately at the start of the game by feeding the Angler to a crocodile >:D

  10. Biome crates do have higher priority than golden crates, yeah. Once you hit 211 fishing power, biome crate rates cap out, while golden crates could theoretically get more common up to 643 fishing power. You can avoid biome crates entirely by fishing in areas that don't have them, like pure caverns for the added benefit of farming endurance potions. Doing this nominally should give you just 1/3rd more golden crates, but in my experience it feels like I get a lot more. This is most relevant for fishing for life crystals, for which max fishing gear and accessories is around twice as fast as max no angler, which saves around 4 hours total if going from 100 to 400. Other people say that grind takes a lot longer, which would make fishing gear save a lot more time in that scenario.

    Titanium Crates average 0.6 bars titanium per crate, while biome crates average 0.4, making gold crates 1.5x faster (same rates for adamantite/mythril/orichalcum). This brings up an interesting alternative: lava fishing, where all crates are biome crates. In return, only 1/6 crates actually come up at all. Lava fishing is always more bait efficient, but generally slower; once you reach 151 fishing power, water gets the same number of biome crates as lava while also getting golden crate chances. Below around 85 fishing power, though, lava fishing becomes faster for getting hardmode ores than water fishing does. If you're using magma snails and lavaproof fishing hook, lava fishing wins out up to around 110 fishing power, which is pretty substantial.

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